I rounded up the best tweets of last night’s Republican debate for The Federalist.
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What is Trump hiding?
StandardI wrote a pre-debate piece about Donald Trump today in The Federalist.
Granite State Rumble
StandardLast night, the GOP hosted their first debate since Iowa’s caucus and the last one before the New Hampshire primary on Tuesday. Mercifully, finally, they made the change they should’ve made weeks ago:
And on the Eighth Debate, God said no Undercard. #GOPDebate
— David M. Drucker (@DavidMDrucker) February 6, 2016
That was the only thing the ABC debate moderators got right, as they somehow bungled the entrance.
No seriously why is Ben Carson not going onto the stage
— Leon Wolf (@LeonHWolf) February 7, 2016
what the hell is going on in this bizarre intro?
— GregGutfeld (@greggutfeld) February 7, 2016
JEB taps in pic.twitter.com/4MEVIcm7lP
— Justin Green (@JGreenDC) February 7, 2016
ABC’s attempt at a Debate Intro: #ABCDebate pic.twitter.com/7kjLXrH1Tv
— Jarrett Moreno (@JarrettAMoreno) February 7, 2016
Once the candidates finally assembled, the folks at home could see that the field had narrowed to seven: Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Marco Rubio, and Donald Trump. Carly Fiorina was excluded, but given the confusion, she probably could’ve snuck in.1
Carly Fiorina could’ve just sprinted to the front of the line and stolen a podium. #gopdebate
— Sara Murray (@SaraMurray) February 7, 2016
ABC moderator (and Clinton Foundation donor) Martha Raddatz started out by trying to get the candidates to attack each other.
So ABC says they’re going to ask about the issues the public wants, then spends first 15 minutes on catfight stuff. nice.
— Tom Bevan (@TomBevanRCP) February 7, 2016
Trump got a question about whether he was temperamentally suited for the Presidency.
Trump has the biggest, classiest temperament.
— Dan McLaughlin (@baseballcrank) February 7, 2016
The moderators encouraged Carson and Cruz to argue over Cruz’s campaign tactics in Iowa, a subject no voter cares about.
About fifteen minutes in the debate, and ABC’s turned this into a Carson/Trump/Cruz fest. Not a word about poll-surging Rubio. #GOPdebate
— Brandon (@Brand_Allen) February 7, 2016
They finally got their wish for LOUD NOISES in a clash between Christie and Rubio.
Rubio getting his first high heater from Christie.
— Mark Hemingway (@Heminator) February 7, 2016
Shorter Christie to Rubio: “Your crew is featherweight, my gunshots will make you levitate.”
— Jamelle Bouie (@jbouie) February 7, 2016
Rubio falling back on talking points…talking points…too robotic…too robotic.
— Jeff B/DDHQ (@EsotericCD) February 7, 2016
That Christie line “there it is, the memorized speech” was really rattling.
— Farhad Manjoo (@fmanjoo) February 7, 2016
Rubio failed the Turing Test… #GOPDebate
— Miles Brundage (@Miles_Brundage) February 7, 2016
Chris Christie has just successfully thrown Marco Rubio off the GW Bridgw
— Nicholas Thompson (@nxthompson) February 7, 2016
Readers of this blog will know I’m a Rubio supporter, but the early minutes looked bad for our man. The moderators drew blood, and it was the high point of the night for them.
Congratulations to the RNC for sanctioning yet another debate that covers the stage with GOP candidates’ blood. Brilliant strategy!
— Larry Sabato (@LarrySabato) February 7, 2016
ABC News wants to do maximum damage to every GOP candidate. Just like in 2012 and 2008. Good job, Reince. #GOPDebate
— jon gabriel (@exjon) February 7, 2016
This debate is awful. Worse than CNBC.
— Leon Wolf (@LeonHWolf) February 7, 2016
Raddatz shifted the focus to Cruz and quibbled with him over his answer about immigration.
They forgot to ask Kasich a question and have gone to Cruz twice. What’s wrong with ABC?
— Ari Fleischer (@AriFleischer) February 7, 2016
Weird, Raddatz hates Ted Cruz. Who saw that coming? #GOPDebate
— jon gabriel (@exjon) February 7, 2016
Because the ABC hacks are not done with Debbie W-S’s suggested questions yet. https://t.co/meDpbv2egT
— Brian Fraley (@Dailytakes) February 7, 2016
Rubio drew some pointed questions on the same topic.
This Rubio Gang of 8 answer. Yikes. Cruz’s answer was meh, but Rubio’s was a total mess.
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) February 7, 2016
TRUMP: my wall will be ten feet tall
BUSH: eleven feet
TRUMP: fuck
RUBIO: part of my wall goes underground
TRUMP: holy shit— leon (@leyawn) February 7, 2016
Christie smelled blood, and jumped in again.
Christie has obviously decided that the only way he keeps from going under for the third time is to step on Rubio’s head to grab the pier.
— Megan McArdle (@asymmetricinfo) February 7, 2016
Rubio’s answer made sense. But Christie is incredibly skillful in pretending it doesn’t.
— Charles C. W. Cooke (@charlescwcooke) February 7, 2016
Mary Katharine Ham, the one moderator not pushing Democratic talking points, was finally allowed to join the conversation with a question to Trump about healthcare. He answered it…kind of.
Great Trump Q from @mkhammer: “You said you want universal care and gov’t. should pay for all of it. Aren’t you closer to Bernie Sanders?”
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) February 7, 2016
Trump: “We’re going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with something so much better.”
He always says something, but never *what* that is.
— Josh Jordan (@NumbersMuncher) February 7, 2016
They talked about eminent domain. Trump claimed it was good, because it let us build roads and pipelines. Bush suggested that building a road is not the same as seizing an old lady’s house to build a limousine parking lot for a private casino.
Question isn’t about eminent domain per se, but about Kelo’s abandonment of “public use.” Trump’s a liar.
— Charles C. W. Cooke (@charlescwcooke) February 7, 2016
Jeb Bush steps in to explain the difference between eminent domain for roads and limo parking lots. Wild applause.
— Megan McArdle (@asymmetricinfo) February 7, 2016
Jeb won the crowd over, so Trump attacked them, too.
Trump turning on the audience! I love it.
— Jonah Goldberg (@JonahNRO) February 7, 2016
I’ve never seen a candidate go after the crowd. Never. This is amazing.
— Farhad Manjoo (@fmanjoo) February 7, 2016
Donald Trump’s aides right now: pic.twitter.com/lnR2SHJdsu
— Jim Waterson (@jimwaterson) February 7, 2016
Trump was asked to explain how he is a conservative.
What Conservatism Means To Me
By Donald Trump
— Rebecca Berg (@rebeccagberg) February 7, 2016
Rubio jumped in with a stronger answer, and began to recover from the Christie attacks.
Rubio definition conservatism: Limited government, federalism, free enterprise, strong America.
— Hunter Baker (@hunterbaker) February 7, 2016
Christie joined the fray with his tried-and-true “Senators talk, Governors work” routine.
Gov. Christie, who brought up repetition three times, is saying "you have to do these things as governor" for about fifth time. #GOPDebate
— Caleb Howe (@CalebHowe) February 7, 2016
On foreign policy, Rubio was on surer ground, and Trump repeated his earlier plan to bomb ISIS’s oil, then seize ISIS’s oil.
Okay, Rubio is sounding intelligent. Maybe not right, but intelligent. Is this enough to make up for earlier debacle?
— Megan McArdle (@asymmetricinfo) February 7, 2016
Rubio showing his comfort discussing foreign policy. Earns applause for response on his strategy against ISIS.
— Sabrina Siddiqui (@SabrinaSiddiqui) February 7, 2016
Note to Trump: If you BOMB the oil, then you can't TAKE the oil. Think it through.
— Josh Rogin (@joshrogin) February 7, 2016
Bomb the oil. Take the canolis.
— Moe Lane (@moelane) February 7, 2016
The moderators brought out a leftover question from 2008, and asked about torture:
Jeb Bush says he would not bring back waterboarding. "I think where we stand is the appropriate place." Good on him.
— (Stephanie) Slade (@sladesr) February 7, 2016
Trump would bring back waterboarding to force old ladies to give up their homes to build casino parking lots
— Norman Ornstein (@NormOrnstein) February 7, 2016
Chris Christie waterboarded Marco Rubio tonight.
— Blake Hounshell (@blakehounshell) February 7, 2016
There was a question of the type reserved for Republicans: how would you “change the tone” in Washington?
Trump's way to get consensus:
1) Get congress in a room
2) Hug and kiss em
3) Reach decisions
4) But things you want that's how deals work.— Adrian Carrasquillo (@Carrasquillo) February 7, 2016
Kasich on bipartisanship right now… pic.twitter.com/FFHJiCuwVr
— The Federalist (@FDRLST) February 7, 2016
On drugs, and specifically heroin, Cruz had a rare humanizing moment.
That was probably the best, most personal, most moving answer I've ever seen Ted Cruz give.
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) February 7, 2016
This attempt by the moderator to shame Cruz over the drug question was a pretty catastrophic failure, huh?
— Seth Mandel (@SethAMandel) February 7, 2016
Where's Rand to jump in with a "LEGALIZE IT!"?
— Phil Kerpen (@kerpen) February 7, 2016
Carson and Christie got a question about the emerging threat from the Zika virus.
Dr. Carson will safeguard our precious bodily fluids.
— Ross Douthat (@DouthatNYT) February 7, 2016
Waterboard the mosquitoes. https://t.co/M1XqXGgY34
— Seth Mandel (@SethAMandel) February 7, 2016
Yes. With DDT https://t.co/4OSSl0G4uK
— Greg Pollowitz (@GPollowitz) February 7, 2016
Another blast from the past came in a question about the military draft.
Raddatz is fucking up again. Question was about signing up for selective service, which Raddatz is now equating to a draft.
— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) February 7, 2016
Rubio and Bush talked about the Veterans Administration problems.
"When I am POTUS, veterans will be able to take their business to any hospital or any doctor they choose!" —Rubio
— (Stephanie) Slade (@sladesr) February 7, 2016
The VA stuff is consistently just about Jeb's strongest issue.
— Dan McLaughlin (@baseballcrank) February 7, 2016
Jeb assures America his supporters are still alive.
— Philip Bump (@pbump) February 7, 2016
On an abortion question, Rubio defended his pro-life beliefs and questioned why the Democrats’ positions aren’t examined as closely as Republicans’.
Rubio: I would rather lose an election than be wrong on the issue of life. #GOPDebate
— Dan Gainor (@dangainor) February 7, 2016
Rubio is right. They never press Dems on their blank check infanticide.
— Dr Hugo Hackenbush (@MangyLover) February 7, 2016
Christie’s more moderate position left the viewers cold.
Pro-lifers don't say "terminate a pregnancy," Chris.
— Phil Kerpen (@kerpen) February 7, 2016
"Abortion is an act of self-defense."
That should end Christie's campaign *right there*#GOPDebate
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) February 7, 2016
I am still wincing over Christie's brutal description of when it's ok to kill your baby. Horrid. Horrid.
— Amanda Carpenter (@amandacarpenter) February 7, 2016
The candidates made their final pitch to the voters.
"I've been sane, focused and mature. I'm sorry I let you down." — Kasich #closingstatements #GOPDebate
— Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) February 7, 2016
"I am incredibly proud to be on stage with these men—except that mark-ass trick Marco Rubio." – Chris Christie
— Jamelle Bouie (@jbouie) February 7, 2016
That parting shot by @realDonaldTrump at @tedcruz was incredible. What a sore loser sack of shit you are. #ABCDebate
— Ben Howe (@BenHowe) February 7, 2016
Nobody had a great night, and opinions varied on who could be said to have triumphed.
Consensus is Kasich, Bush, Christie did well. Rubio stumbled. Cruz held steady. Trump held steady. Carson is "still there."
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) February 7, 2016
Don't get me wrong – Rubio should've been prepared for the experience question, but Democrats are piling on because they know who they fear.
— Josh Jordan (@NumbersMuncher) February 7, 2016
Gilmore didn't hurt himself tonight.
— James Taranto (@jamestaranto) February 7, 2016
This debate had only one winner: @mkhammer.
— jimgeraghty (@jimgeraghty) February 7, 2016
This was my favorite, though:
That's a wrap #GOPDebate. And your winner: The #StarWars force-ghost of #RandPaul. #MayTheForceBeWithYou pic.twitter.com/NYQN0YmphH
— Tom Fitzgerald (@FitzFox5DC) February 7, 2016
- Yes, “snuck” is a real word. Deal with it! ↩
The Field Narrows
StandardSince Ted Cruz’s victory in Iowa, Rand Paul and Mike Huckabee have given up their quests for the Presidency. I suspect Rick Santorum is not far behind. Before it’s too late, I thought I’d rank my favorites of the remaining candidates.
- Marco Rubio. He’s knowledgeable about a variety of subjects and good at communicating it in his speeches. His candidacy is inspiring as an American success story, but there’s actual substance there, too. I think he is a little bellicose, but I’d rather a President who looks a little tough than one whom other world leaders suspect of weakness. Plus, this online quiz says my views match his most closely, so it’s not just a matter of liking his speeches. Rubio would be a good president, and stands the best chance of beating Hillary Clinton.
2. Jeb Bush. I’ve given Bush some grief on this site, I know, but when I look at his intelligence, his grasp of the policies, and his history of conservative governance in Florida, I believe he would make an excellent president. His experience is a plus for me, because I believe it means he could be good at the job from day one. As negatives, the way he’s attacked Rubio and Kasich instead of our real enemy, Donald Trump, pisses me off, and makes me think his campaign people would rather have Hillary in the Oval Office than Marco.
3. Chris Christie. Like Bush, he has governing experience, and like Rubio, he’s good at expressing conservative ideas in a way people can understand and get behind. On certain issues, especially on crime, I disagree with him, but I think he’d give Hilary a good fight and govern well if elected.
4. John Kasich. I’ve been a fan of Kasich’s since his 2000 campaign for the presidency (he dropped out before Iowa). He’s a pragmatic conservative, which I think plays well with independent voters (it worked well for George W. Bush). I don’t think he’d much shrink the size of government or enact any massive changes in Washington, but Kasich knows how the system works and would get things done while governing conservatively. He may surprise in New Hampshire, too, if Rubio doesn’t capture his voters.
5. Carly Fiorina. I’m not wild about the idea of someone who’s never held elected office going straight to the White House. Eisenhower did it most recently, but winning World War II at the head of an international coalition is pretty damn good job training, too. I’m not sure heading a tech company is. On the bright side, Fiorina is knowledgeable about the issues and gives energetic and convincing speeches about them. She’s plenty conservative and plenty tough, but I don’t give her much chance of breaking through. I hope she’s in the next president’s cabinet.
6. Ted Cruz. On paper, Cruz’s positions look good and he is a solid conservative. He’s intelligent and accomplished. I just don’t like him, and I think the voters won’t either. If he is nominated and wins, I’ll be thrilled, but I think he’ll have a hard time defeating Clinton once the media gets behind her. I would love to see him on the Supreme Court.
7. Jim Gilmore. Here’s where it starts to get difficult. I like Gilmore. His national security and defense knowledge is good. He was a fine governor. But he’s already missed loads of states’ filing deadlines, so I’m not sure if he’s seriously trying to win.
8. Ben Carson. Carson seems like a good man. He’s intelligent. He’s conservative. But his campaign is a joke and I think he’d get rolled by the Clinton machine in November.
[UPDATE: Santorum is leaving the race. –2-3-2016] 9. Rick Santorum. I voted for Santorum for Senate in 2000 and 2006, and I’d be pleased if he were still representing my state in Washington. As president, I think he’d be a flop. He’s conservative enough, but his conservatism is mostly focused on areas where I’m not that conservative–like keeping the Import-Export Bank going. He’d be good for the pro-life cause, but that’s about it.
10. 9. Donald Trump. The problem with Trump is that he’s not conservative. He’s for big government, crony capitalism, single-payer healthcare, and gun confiscation. His signature issue is that he doesn’t like Mexicans coming to America. I think our immigration system desperately needs reform, but not the way he wants it. Trump would lose to Clinton. If he won, he be bad for America. So nah.
Iowa Showdown
StandardI collected the best tweets of last night’s GOP debate in Iowa in this article at The Federalist.
Do Not Call Up That Which You Cannot Put Down
StandardSeveral times over the last few days, I’ve come across the phrase “do not call up that which you cannot put down.” Mostly, I saw it in reference to Cruz’s dalliance with Trump people, but it’s been used elsewhere. Here someone uses it with reference to Planned Parenhood’s lawsuit against the people that recorded descriptions of their more grisly practices:
“Do not call up that which ye cannot put down.” – First rule of magic. Also applies to pretrial discovery. https://t.co/GP7IwXX6RO
— Popehat (@Popehat) January 14, 2016
Cruz pandered to them in the hopes that Trump would collapse or withdraw and his followers would see Cruz as the next best thing. Good strategy, right? But now, Trump shows no sign of dropping out and with Cruz as his greatest rival, Trump is using the pulpit Cruz helped legitimize to call down damnation on his erstwhile ally.
The phrase comes from an H.P. Lovecraft novella, The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, and its use is a tribute to the triumph of nerd culture. Originally rendered in the story as “do not calle up That which you can not put downe,” it was found in the letters of an 18th-century alchemist and necromancer who had died years ago (or had he?) In more modern parlance, we might say: do not set loose any forces that you cannot later re-bind, if you need to.
In light of Sarah Palin’s endorsement of Donald Trump today, it’s actually made me think of the whole right-wing populist movement as that which we have called up. We maybe didn’t recognize it at the time, but the McCain-Palin ticket of 2008 was a balance between establishment and insurgency. We didn’t use those terms, and we didn’t think of McCain as truly an establishment figure (he was a maverick, remember?) but that was the effect. The ticket faltered and Palin “went rogue.” But she only had a platform because the establishment forces called her up, hoping to capture the power of the youth and outsider energy she seemed to represent.
I must admit, I was among the ones who cheered at her calling up.
Palin had a fiery spirit that I thought, along with her record against corruption and crony capitalism in Alaska, would charge up the staid Republican party and win the elections. But, as James Fenimore Cooper wrote, fire is a powerful servant, but fearful master. McCain set loose that populism, but he could not contain it. It’s not what lost him the election–no V.P. could have saved him after the markets crashed–but I’m sure picking Palin is a decision he still regrets.
The spirit is loose among the Trumpkins. Populism has always been with us; it’s the dark mirror of democracy itself, mass participation, but for a malign purpose, often heedless of ideas or ideology. In the absence of a perfectly educated, successful, and virtuous populace, it will always exist. Palin didn’t invent populism, but she was its avatar for a time. Now she’s passed the torch Trump, who is even more powerful.
Populism was always going to erupt in an economy like this one, especially in the face of demographic changes that seem strange to some people, but there was no guarantee of it erupting on the right. There is the glamour of populism in the Sanders campaign, as well. But with Palin as his forerunner, Trump was better positioned to harness populism’s fell power. It will undo him eventually, too, but that it exists in the Republican party is down to all of us who cheered Governor Palin’s nomination in 2008.
On to Boulder
StandardTonight, fourteen of the fifteen remaining Republican candidates meet at the Coors Event Center in Boulder, Colorado for their third debate. As before, the size of the field forced the organizers to split it into two debates. In the first, which no one will watch, Bobby Jindal, Lindsay Graham, George Pataki and Rick Santorum will struggle for attention. Jim Gilmore wasn’t invited. How much longer will these men continue to campaign? Jindal, alone, has a chance of breaking out of the pack, and even his odds are looking longer by the day.
In the main debate, erstwhile frontrunner Donald Trump will participate from behind in the polls for the first time. He must do something to regain his dwindling fanbase, but I don’t think it’s possible. What brought them to him in the first place had nothing to do with words or reason, and no words or reason can bring them back. What will be interesting is how he tries: will Trump attack the new favorite, Ben Carson, or will he continue his assault on Jeb Bush?
Carson, who now outpolls Trump in Iowa by a significant margin, is difficult to figure out. It’s hard for the other candidates to go negative against him because even people (like me) who don’t want to vote for him still think of him as a decent man. The usual Trump bombast might backfire. On the other hand, a more solid performance from Carson might increase his lead, especially if he looks less bewildered than last time.
For Bush, who I think who would do the best job as President, the challenge is to show himself as the best candidate. His campaign has featured the most well-thought-out policy proposals of any of them, but he has yet to translate earnest desire for the job into a more inspirational fire in the belly that will draw supporters to his cause.
Of all of the candidates, Marco Rubio has risen the most in my estimation through his debate performance. He consistently knows what he’s talking about and comes up with thoughtful, conservative answers. His poll numbers have been rising, and another good performance could convince undecided voters that he is up to the job.
Since her inspiring performance last time, Carly Fiorina has been coasting back down to the middle of the pack. She’s the most credible of the outsider candidates, and this is her chance to show it again. Cruz, too, could use this debate as the chance to push ahead of the pack. As the only candidate to straddle the outsider-insider divide, he could pick up some of the supporters Trump is losing, especially if he manages to sound more bellicose. They seem to like that.
Christie has been out of the news so much I keep forgetting he’s running. He had a good showing last time, but something seems to be holding him back. Likewise, Kasich has been getting some supporters, but seems blocked by the other mainstream candidates. Paul will keep looking for the libertarian moment. Sadly, I don’t think 2016 is it. But some good answers on civil liberties questions might brighten his candidacy.
Huckabee will probably make some good conservative answers and sell a few more books, which seems to be the point of his candidacy.
If you’re tired of my opinions, here are some from a few other people:
- Debate Preview: Heated Rivalries Take the Stage, by Caitlin Huey-Burns
- GOP Outsiders Are Likely to Stay That Way, by David Avella
- CNBC’s John Harwood Has No Business Moderating A GOP Presidential Debate, by Mollie Hemingway
- GOP campaigns ponder: Is it safe to attack Ben Carson? by Byron York
- What the GOP’s Top Candidates Must Do in Their Third Debate, by John Dickerson